The Breakthrough Emotional Eating Podcast

BEE #146: From Policy to Pilates: Rewriting the Rules of Food, Fitness, and Fulfillment with Sebastian Lim

Kristin Jones

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From Policy to Pilates: Rewriting the Rules of Food, Fitness, and Fulfillment with Sebastian Lim

What happens when a public health professional trades spreadsheets and systems for sweat and soul work?

In this powerful and unexpected conversation, host Kristin Jones sits down with fitness coach Sebastian Lim, whose career pivot from healthcare policy to hands-on coaching reveals what it really takes to transform your relationship with food and movement. If you’ve ever felt trapped by emotional eating, confused by diet trends, or disconnected from your body, this episode will meet you where you are—and invite you to grow.

Sebastian’s journey is more than inspirational; it’s refreshingly honest. From navigating a five-year vegan lifestyle to launching a gender-inclusive Pilates brand, his insights push past conventional wellness wisdom and challenge us to embrace evolution—physically, mentally, and emotionally.

Top 5 Lessons from this Episode:
Movement as Joy, Not Punishment – Learn why falling in love with how your body moves can be the antidote to emotional eating.
You’re Allowed to Evolve – Sebastian’s personal shift from veganism to a more flexible diet reminds us that our bodies and needs change—and that’s okay.
Food ≠ Emotional Support – Kristin and Sebastian unpack the idea that food should fuel, not comfort.
Fitness is for Everyone – Discover how Sebastian’s new project Pilates Boys is breaking down gender barriers in movement spaces.
Ditch the Rigidity – Whether it’s your meal plan or your workout routine, flexibility and authenticity matter more than perfection.

💡 Whether you're looking to heal your relationship with food, add more joy to your workouts, or simply give yourself permission to grow—this episode delivers.

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Speaker 1:

Do you want to lose weight but struggle to stay committed to a meal plan because you constantly feel hungry? Does food provide you comfort when you're bored, angry, lonely or sad? If so, you are in the right place. My name is Kristen Jones and I'm a life coach specializing in emotional eating and weight loss, and I'm also a lifelong emotional eater. I want to provide you with information, motivation and support so you, too, can learn to manage your issues with food and develop a healthy relationship with yourself.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Breakthrough Emotional Eating Podcast. My name is Kristen Jones and thank you so much for joining me this week. Now, you all know I like a handsome man. You know that talk about all the time, Um, but this is an especially cool handsome man that's sitting next to me. Uh, as you know, if you've been following the podcast, you know that I have started doing more interviewing with the amazing people that I know and work with at lifetime in Walnut Creek, California, and I have really been trying to just spotlight the amazing things that my coworkers are doing and that they're doing not only just here in this club facility, but also outside, and all the other things that they do that are absolutely amazing. So today I am going to be interviewing this very handsome gentleman sitting next to me.

Speaker 1:

He came to Lifetime, say, nine months ago yeah, yeah, about nine months ago, and you don't even know the story. But before he came here, there was talk about this new trainer that was coming, this new guy that was coming, who was new guy that was coming? Who was from OTF, Orange Theory no shade on Orange Theory, I'll. I'll mention them, Um, but they coming from Orange Theory and all I heard. I didn't know who he was, but I know that one person referred to you as Sebi and um and uh just said he's amazing and he will totally fit in, and I was like, really Okay, let's just see. And he came and he did all that and so much more. So welcome to the podcast, Sebastian Lim. Thank you so much for being here.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, Kristen. I'm honored and pleased to be here.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely so. You have, as I mentioned, you've been at Lifetime for nine months. Yes, and tell me and the audience a little bit more about how you got into fitness, how you got to coming here to Lifetime.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's a great question. It certainly has been a journey, because if you told me honestly 10 years ago if I was going to work full-time fitness, I would have told you I don't believe you, you're crazy, and what are you talking about. So my journey with fitness has been a very interesting one. Ever since I was a child, I was always enrolled in some sort of sports team. So I came up from a family of immigrants that you know my dad's from Burma, myanmar, my mom's from Brazil. So, like coming to California and establishing roots in a family here, they wanted me to do anything and everything to succeed.

Speaker 2:

So, like great parents want, absolutely Focused on academics but also was always involved in sports. So, no matter what I was either on a tennis team, basketball team, something so I was always involved in some form of athletics, um, but that was always secondary to my education. Um, after I got my master's degree, um, in public health, um, I entered the workforce. I was working a nine to five job, you know, in healthcare. You're loving that and you know I truly am grateful for that experience because it also led me to here Absolutely, and at the time my priorities were, okay, you know, work full time, work full time in healthcare and then maybe explore some side gigs, cause I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I like being busy, I like moving my body, so it sounds like sounds like me. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

And so right before the pandemic, I remember, you know, I used to take lots of fitness classes, like everywhere you know, just to stay active, stay healthy, because I wanted to, just, I mean, for aesthetic reasons, for mental health reasons, all of it. And then, when COVID hit, I'm sure everyone had like a form of COVID crisis, like identity crisis, and I thought to myself well, you know, if I am going to be working remotely at home this whole time, I'm going to invest in something that I really want to do, and that was get my certification in NASM and try this fitness thing. Started working for Orange Theory part-time. I was there for like three, three and a half years, loved it, you know every single moment of it. And then I thought to myself, why not try doing more? Why not like make this my career? It was one of the most fear-inducing moments of my life.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely so. This, this was just recently. This was probably within the last year or a couple of years.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, so lifetime is my first full-time fitness career.

Speaker 1:

I did not know that, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

It's also like I did kind of like train like a friend or a family here and there for personal training, but it's my first full-time personal training, group fitness, career, right and that's what I'm here for, only income coming in.

Speaker 1:

Yes, that's it. Like you got to make it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly, exactly. So it was definitely a big risk, but I feel like I have gotten more of a reward than I could have ever imagined Absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

So what so? So, when you think back to what you did in corporate with, with healthcare, I mean again, cause you were in the health, in the health field, it's so funny you have a, I have a, my degree is in health science and so, and, public health was really what kind of got me interested in going into health science and and and, and. Then my first job outside of, outside of college as well what? What do you feel you learned from healthcare and from the corporate environment that you that is helping you now with your time, your time at Lifetime and running your own business?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've thought about this a lot and honestly, because when I studied public health, it's all about okay, you know from a system level what how can we make people healthier? How can we give people access to healthy food? How can we make their environment more healthy? How can we create policies so that, you know, the population as a whole can live happier, healthier life, right? And the more that, the deeper I got into my public health career, the more disconnected I became from the whole. Reason why I wanted to go into public health was to help people.

Speaker 2:

I know it sounds cliche, but I just like seeing people thrive, you know, I just like seeing people thrive, you know. And so entering fitness was my way of seeing and reconnecting with that passion. Because, you know, growing up it was either I was going to be a doctor, lawyer or engineer, one of those three. And then I said, oh, I like helping people, okay, I'll be a doctor. But the biggest thing I really learned from that job and from my degree is that, um, well, public health is absolutely necessary. It's also, um, you can make such a big impact on an individual level and I think that I have more to offer at that individual and like group level.

Speaker 2:

Um, health policy, cause, I studied health policy and, um, well, we have a very um, well off, you know, uh, country. At the same time, or, I feel like our system is failing in a way um, lots of people and um, my only thought was okay, if we can empower ourselves to become fit, become healthy and to create that autonomy, why not be able to share that with others? Yeah, so, long story short. I think the system that we have right now, it's very convoluted and almost unnecessarily, and I thought to myself you know, why not let people help themselves become healthier, rather than have some authoritarian you know body tell them how to be healthy.

Speaker 1:

Right and mandate it Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

So what is so on on that line? What is, what is a way, what's your favorite way or the way you're most passionate about passing that information onto your clients?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, honestly, it's just falling in love with movement.

Speaker 2:

I think I didn't really understand that I fell in love with movement until I did dance in college, and how much it connects people and how much movement can be, you know, enticing and freeing and, um and uh, forced to like, you know, not only bring people together, but also, um, I don't know, express yourself, right? Um, so that's why I love like group fit classes, because you have the community aspect, you're you're working out together, but you're also like cheering each other on, you're creating some common goal that you're working towards. And um, so what I try to tell my private clients, or what I try to induce without you know, just saying directly I want them to feel like they're successful and feel like they fall in love with working out rather than feel like it's a chore, right, yeah, like we're here to have fun, we're here to, you know, have the best hour of our day, right? And whether it's me telling you to do a bicep curl or a pushup or you coming, I want you to feel like you're eager to come in and do whatever is um on the docket today, yeah, so I think some of my most successful clients are those that have seen the most progress are the ones that have fallen in love with it.

Speaker 2:

Do things outside of our session, go to classes. Come, you know, to our personal training session with like eagerness, vigor, Um, and yeah, just fall in love with the movement.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome, so good, because because that is if you're if it, if it's a chore, then the moment they stop seeing you they're not going to be doing it on their own, because they're not, they're not getting.

Speaker 1:

They're not. They're not, they're not learning or feeling. That intrinsic value of like this really makes me feel good, whether whether I see Sebastian or not. I'm going to do this because it makes me feel good, exactly, and, and that's and that's always what we want. I mean, I know, for me with, with coaching, it's always been. I don't, I never want people to be dependent upon me. I want you to. I want to give you the tools to, to, to start to grow and love what we're doing, and then you do it on your own, and then you, and then I give you the. You know, I give you the tools and then you have the power to do that and so much more.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. It's just like changing people's perspective and it's to make it, you know, something that they love rather than something that they feel like they need to do. We get to do this.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, Absolutely so much. So, when it comes to your classes here, yeah, I'm just going to tell you, he teaches so many classes and I'm and I'm not, I'm not, you know, in any way hesitant to say he teaches here. He also teaches in another studio in our town and teaches very different classes. They're very different than we don't even have the same classes here. How many different disciplines, different types of classes do you teach?

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's a great question. Okay, I didn't even count in my head, let's see. At least I want to say six, six, yeah. So I teach cycle, I teach Pilates, I teach like strength training circuit classes, I teach like a cardio trampoline class. Yes, very good for your lymphatic system. Okay, very good for. Yeah, very good for cardio, low impact cardio and lymphatic drainage, which is amazing.

Speaker 1:

So this is just funny. As a side note. My mom had one of those little trampolines. I don't know if you all have seen those little trampoline things that they have. My mom back in the 70s she had one, and, oh yeah, I was doing it. I was probably it was in the 80s. In the 80s I was in high school. I did it on my own at home. I didn't even know what I was doing. I was like, why do we have this thing? It's kind of fun, though, and I would jump around it and I'd be like sweating.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was great. I love that.

Speaker 1:

It's just making a resurgence. Oh, it's amazing. It's amazing and I, I, I think it's great that you're, that you're teaching, okay, so that one, the trampoline class, and then here you're doing y'all. He teaches our Aurora classes and our Aurora classes are 65, 60, 65, 55 and over classes. There are older, our older population here at the club and I teach one and Sebastian teaches one, and they talk on and on about him. Oh, my God, he's just, he's so tough, but he's just so nice, so nice to look at. They are not afraid. Those ladies are not afraid to say it he's really nice to look at. They are not afraid. Those ladies are not afraid to say he's really nice to look at. They're killing me, they're awesome. It keeps them coming back. Absolutely. What's your favorite? My favorite, your favorite class to teach.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, I mean, they're all so different and that's why I love doing all of them. I love teaching boxing. That's one discipline I didn't say I love teaching boxing. It's still relatively newer compared to some of the other things that I've been doing, but I love the energy of it. I love the yeah, I mean, ever since I was a little kid I would like play, fight and watch Jackie Chan movies and like fall in love with, like all sorts of martial arts.

Speaker 1:

I am. So how long have you been doing that? Because it like watching you teach is. I mean, I've seen your videos watching you teaching and I've seen you do some stuff here. It seems like you've been teaching forever. It seems very like very natural and very intuitive. So how, how long has it been?

Speaker 2:

Actually for coaching some boxing specifically. It's only been like a year and a half, oh, wow, okay, yeah, no year and a half, okay. Year and a half, oh, wow, okay, yeah, no year and a half, okay, yeah, closer to two years.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's amazing. I love it. I love the energy of it and I love how it empowers people Like I teach my Aurora class like a version of kickboxing and they love that. They're like more boxing.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, More kickboxing oh.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure it's just so cool because it's so yeah, it's so empowering and, um, it just looks cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly, um, you just recently we were talking about this before I told them I was going to mention this you just recently changed your Instagram handle. You were the slim herbivore herbivore You're now Fit Coach Seb. Yes, okay, so, and I had recently asked him and said something like, oh, you're a vegetarian, right? And he was like I used to be, and I was like, wait a minute, we got to talk about that. So tell us all about one. You were either vegetarian or vegan, and then now you are not.

Speaker 1:

So I'd love to hear, because one of the things that I really want to do on this podcast is giving people an opportunity and a platform for people to talk about the different ways that they nourish their bodies and the different ways that they eat. Yes, my podcast is about emotional eating, but I think it's so important that we be eating the way we want to be eating and also the way that feels right for our bodies, and so, whatever that looks like, it doesn't really matter, but I but I want to expose people to as much of that as I as we can. So tell us about your, tell us about your food journey and where you are now.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely so. I made a very conscious decision to go plant based or vegan back in 2020, I want to say so, like before even the pandemic happened and part of the decision was it kind of built up over time. There was a lot of research going out at the time about how plant-based diets from like books and podcasts that I've read, movies, I've watched documentaries, everything how positively it impacts your health and the environment. So I thought, you know, no brainer, why not try this plant-based thing? And it naturally stuck, just because I was already mildly lactose intolerant and didn't necessarily, at the time, enjoy any sort of animal products. So I said I'm going to try it, no expectation, let's see how long it lasts. Stuck with it for like five years yeah, five years and then, more recently actually, when I started this career, went back to eating animal products again. Part of it was that well, well, I, it's it's all trade-offs, right, like it's um, I. I enjoyed and adored, like creating and following new recipes on how to, you know, eat a vegan diet while still getting enough protein and enough nutrition. Um, and while that was a fun, welcome challenge while I was working from home as a busy individual that's never home anymore. It is very challenging, and so, to all the vegans and vegetarians out there, I applaud you. Hats off to you, because it takes a lot of planning and discipline to navigate that.

Speaker 2:

There's a lot more options now, but part of opening up my diet back to animal-based products, part of it was just because my lifestyle changed and over time, the reason why I changed my Instagram handle too, was because, actually, when I started my whole fitness journey, I thought, okay, I'm going to be specifically a vegan coach and help people navigate that, and then my fitness career like that aspect kind of blossomed.

Speaker 2:

And so it was. It was also kind of a challenging decision to see, like how do I uncouple my identity from that? And yes, you are what you eat, but at the same time, like, we change, we evolve, and my body has so far responded totally okay to animal-based products, and so I thought to myself, why restrict myself? Another big reason was, as I was eating more plant-based foods, I noticed that I was eating a lot of processed foods and because nowadays there's vegan everything Oreos are vegan, right, right, but are they healthy? I don't think so. And so vegan and vegetarianism and health when I first did it, I thought, oh, that's the healthiest thing you could do, but that's not necessarily true.

Speaker 2:

You have to work hard. You have to work hard for it. So yeah, it was just uncoupling that idea that that was the only way to be healthy. But it's not true.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, right, and it's funny I don't talk about it. I don't talk about it much on the podcast, but I was vegan, for for probably I've gone and been in various stages, for you know, six, eight months at a time, and then and then. But but I what I found was I didn't like the idea of having to eat so much processed food, having to eat things that I couldn't read, I didn't know what the names were, and there were things that were like, if I'm going to get a really good solid protein and I'm going to eat seitan, it's like okay, well, that has all sorts of funky stuff that I can't, I don't know what it is, and I would rather eat something that I know exactly what it is and I know exactly where it's come from, as opposed to just eating those chemical things. And so that's kind of always been my and it's not been my objection to it, but it's always been the thing that's like I really am not that comfortable with that aspect of it. So I totally agree, I totally agree with you on that.

Speaker 1:

But I think, but it's interesting to see how different our bodies respond to different things and how our bodies can feel, and I think also over time. With age, things change and sometimes our bodies need more protein. And sometimes I have a friend who's a vegan and she's a vegan triathlete and she has to work really hard to get her protein but she does. But she really stays away from processed stuff, but she knows how to do the combinations. Like girl, how do you have the time to do that?

Speaker 1:

There's a lot to it. So I just think that, again, lots of opportunities, lots of different things that people can do.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely yeah, and I think that's the biggest lesson that I learned. It's like I gave myself permission to be okay, to evolve and change and I was very worried that like, okay, once I go vegan, if I go back, then you know, I don't know the online community.

Speaker 1:

What will people say? What will people say Right?

Speaker 2:

Like but it's, it's okay, Cause people evolve and we evolve.

Speaker 2:

And yeah, like you said, listen to your body. And I guess one more note I I just always think in my head yeah, have you read Michael Pollan's book? I mean he has multiple books, but In Defense of Food, no, I haven't Such a good book. I read that back in my grad school program. I mean the tagline is just super simple, like eat food not too much, mostly plants. And that kind of um led my journey both in and out of um veganism Cause it's not necessarily he wasn't advocating necessarily for veganism, but rather just eat whole based foods, whole food, yeah, I mean it's fine to indulge a little bit.

Speaker 1:

Oh, absolutely Absolutely no, and that's always been my, it's always been my thing is it's like everything, everything in moderation, including moderation, but it's it's more about. It's about listening to your body, Cause our bodies know what it what they need. Um, sometimes our mind doesn't know what we need, but you know, we, we, we think we need something, Um, but it's just better to listen, really listen to your body and and, and not let other things influence. You know, food is just food. It doesn't need to be a best friend, it doesn't need to be a warm hug, it doesn't need to be, you know, something that makes you not feel lonely, and so that's really it's. It's it's removing it and taking it back to what it's really intended to do, which is intended to nourish us, give us energy to do what we need to do. Amen, so, yeah, Amen. So you, recently, so we.

Speaker 1:

When I first started my Pilates training, my original Pilates training, in January of this year, I started right. I started training for it before I had my accident. Then I had my accident, Then I was. I had to stop it. Sebastian was in my Pilates little cohort who did the training. He finished in April and started teaching Pilates on the reformer full not full-time, but as a part of your personal training, and you also started a business around Pilates. So please share what you have done with our mutual friend Daniel, Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so myself and my coworker, daniel, started a business called Pilates Boys. And it's funny because it really came from a conversation, like he had the original idea. He was talking to a client and he was kind of joking like, hey, you know what, if I started, you know, like a Pilates sock business and then call it Pilates boys, and then he asked me you know, because we were the only two men that were in the training um, you know, wouldn't that be a cool idea? And then we kept talking about the idea of Pilates boys and, uh, it really intrigued me because, uh, one I was very. I am still learning so much, um, from the discipline yeah.

Speaker 2:

And, uh, after going through the training and I know you're going through the training right now like learning about the history is so interesting because it's like, um, in current culture, at least on the surface, it looks like oh, and I know a lot of, I'm guessing a lot of men think, oh, pil Pilates is for women, for girls, for dancers, because it got really popular in New York with New York City ballet dancers. But it was a discipline originally created from Joseph Pilates, who was a war vet, previously a boxer, and he was, you know, jerry-rigging hospital beds to help rehabilitate soldiers in the war, right, right, and it's like, wow, it has this really, you know, interesting history. That's so, I would say, different from what it evolved into. And so the whole idea was we're going to create a Pilates sock business, one to create a high quality sock, because there's a lot in the market that are not.

Speaker 1:

Are they going to be for women?

Speaker 2:

No, for everyone, for everyone, okay, okay, so the whole idea.

Speaker 1:

I knew socks, I just didn't know what. It was limited Okay.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so, even though it's called Pilates Boys, the whole ethos of the business is to really open up Pilates for anyone, because Pilates is for everyone.

Speaker 2:

It is such a cool discipline and system to help strengthen yourself from the inside out I mean, not only makes you flexible, but also stable and also, you know, it makes you grow taller, right, and our idea was, you know how, do try to um create this idea where pilates isn't just, um, female oriented and it's really for everyone.

Speaker 2:

And so we want to open it up, especially to the idea that, for men and boys, like this is a discipline that you can participate into and thrive into and are invited into. I actually saw a semi-recent article of someone attending a Pilates class I think it was in New York or something like that and it was a woman that was kind of, I guess, complaining to a journalist that there was one guy in the room that was, you know, kind of in, uh, being intrusive in this, you know, primarily female class, and I thought to myself that's really interesting, cause, you know, I thought it would be more inclusive, right, right, we just want it to be inclusive. We want Pilates to, you know, not feel like a discipline that is just gender specific and so we're kind of we kind of created that idea and that name like hey, pilates boys do you see that every day, and social media and stuff like that. I haven't.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, so it's, it's essentially, it's. It's the socks or the vehicle to to unite everyone in Pilates, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

That's awesome.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I love that. So, uh, when I know you're in the midst of of finding a manufacturer for the socks and you have some designs and things like that. So when do you think these will be available to the public?

Speaker 2:

So date is to be determined. But we do have social media that we're trying to ramp up right now and we're building our website right now so you can see all of the uh evolution of the business happening. Uh, pilates underscore boys. So you have that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I'll mark that down Pilates underscore boys and I'll have I'll have all the information in the show notes so you can follow them on. I know you do have an Instagram yes, yes, they have an Instagram and um, you can get all that, get all of that information, um, as well. So I would love for a. Where would you like things to go in your, in your businesses, when it comes to um? You know just your growth and your development as as a trainer, as a Pilates instructor, fitness fitness, you know influencer, what would you what? Where would you like this, this whole adventure, to go to?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean I would love to you know, start taking private clients, maybe online clients, expand. You know where I can create an impact in any of those disciplines and I think it would be really cool telling you earlier about building a facility that crosses a lot of those disciplines, not necessarily putting them in isolation. But what if you did like a boxing Pilates fusion class? Or what if we did like some sort of swimming strength training class? I love doing all these disciplines because I see the differences and also similarities between all of them.

Speaker 2:

So maybe opening up a gym or something, or or at least having some some way to expand um online clientele, in-person clientele, wonderful.

Speaker 1:

So if people want to connect with you, um, how, and I'll put it, I'll put it on the show notes, but, uh, will you tell them how? How would they? How would they want to get in touch with you If anybody wanted to connect with you when it came to personal training or any of those things, whether they're here in the area or you know, or outside of the area?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely so. My Instagram is probably my most um utilized channel. Um fit underscore. Coach underscore Seb S E B S E B fit underscore coach.

Speaker 1:

Underscore Seb S-E-B, s-e-b fit underscore coach. Underscore Seb Perfect, and we'll put all the information. If you have your website address, we can get all that information out as well.

Speaker 1:

Yes, we'll do Thank you so much for spending this time and sharing with the audience all the things that you've learned. I think it's interesting because we both had that same experience of doing something that we were really passionate about, but it didn't actually turn out the way we wanted it to, and so sometimes we have to pivot in a lot of ways and you pivot and you make a different decision, and who knows what other decisions are coming down the way, but we have to be open to it, exactly. Yeah, that's awesome. I hope that you all enjoyed my interview with Sebastian. I'm sure you did and got something out of it.

Speaker 1:

I would love for you to share this episode with someone that you know that you think would benefit from it, and please connect with him on Instagram, and all the information will be in the show notes and information about the Pilates boys as well. I love the idea of making Pilates available to everybody. Thank you for listening to this week's episode. If you are interested in learning more about how I can help you understand and manage your emotional eating, including the use of hypnosis to uncover the root cause of your eating, go to my website, kristinjonescoachingcom.